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profh0011
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posted May 09, 2002 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for profh0011   Click Here to Email profh0011        Reply w/Quote
GOLDEN AGE CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!

GOLDEN AGE SUB-MARINER!!!

GOLDEN AGE HUMAN TORCH!!!

GOLDEN AGE VISION!!!

...let's face it, from what I've seen, there's not much else Timely put out back then that isn't suitable for bird-cage lining...

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positronic
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posted May 10, 2002 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for positronic   Click Here to Email positronic        Reply w/Quote
Hey, I like the second-bananas at Timely:
Red Raven, the Mighty Destroyer, Black Marvel, Marvel Boy, Whizzer, Miss America, Silver Scorpion, Blazing Skull, Thin Man (who predated Plastic Man), Jack Frost, Blue Diamond, Black Widow and the Young Allies (one of Timely's best sellers, BTW).

I'd love to see a book with the origins and/or 1st appearances of all the Timely mystery-men.

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Bishop Bobby
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posted May 10, 2002 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bishop Bobby   Click Here to Email Bishop Bobby        Reply w/Quote
I'm with Positronic! I would buy them all!

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BillNolan
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posted May 10, 2002 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillNolan   Click Here to Email BillNolan        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by profh0011:
...let's face it, from what I've seen, there's not much else Timely put out back then that isn't suitable for bird-cage lining...

Have you checked out the Miss America stories online at this address:
http://www.heroicpub.com/missamerica/index.html

Fun stuff.

- Bill

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Old Dude
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posted May 10, 2002 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Old Dude   Click Here to Email Old Dude        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BillNolan:
Have you checked out the Miss America stories online at this address:
http://www.heroicpub.com/missamerica/index.html

Fun stuff.

- Bill


What a great site! I've got some fun evenings ahead of me now.

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BillNolan
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posted May 10, 2002 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillNolan   Click Here to Email BillNolan        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Old Dude:
What a great site! I've got some fun evenings ahead of me now.

The only minor disappointment is that the collection is just short of complete. And the 10-part serial at the end is missing three parts... But how can you complain when that much material IS offered?

- Bill

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ScarletSpider
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posted May 11, 2002 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScarletSpider        Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BillNolan:
[B] Have you checked out the Miss America stories online at this address:
http://www.heroicpub.com/missamerica/index.html

Fun stuff.

I know I am asking a lot, but do you know of any Disney web site with comics from the 40s n 50s?

TIA

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Steven Utley
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posted May 11, 2002 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Utley        Reply w/Quote
The Miss America site is terrific. But is Jimmy Thompson's work never to become generally available?

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greene
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posted May 11, 2002 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greene   Click Here to Email greene        Reply w/Quote
Indeed, thanks for the link to the "Miss America" stories, Bill. I burned up nearly two hours last night on those stories! Often vibrant material. Quite a kick seeing the 'demure' heroine pick up a tommy-gun and polish off the retreating Jap sabotuers in the initial story in "Miss America" no. 1.

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James Friel
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posted May 11, 2002 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Yes, wonderful stuff, and thanks very much.
I'd definitely buy a collection if one's ever printed.

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BruceWayneMan
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posted May 11, 2002 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BruceWayneMan        Reply w/Quote
Regarding mistakes, I just read in a Spider-Man movie tie-in magazine that there were several errors in Amazing Fantasy 15/Spider-Man 1. That I can recall, his costume was colored red and purple in issue 1 so that it wouldn't clash with the Fantastic Four's uniforms, the spider on his back was colored blue in his first appearance, Stan Lee refers to his other identity as Peter Palmer, and the hypen appears and disappears in various places. Have these mistakes ever been included within any reprintings of these stories in Marvel Tales, the Masterwork editions (any volume), Marvel Masterpiece editions, elsewhere? Or do you have to actually own the original copies to see this?

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James Friel
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posted May 12, 2002 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Spidey was red and purple for years, and I still think of him as being those colors.
As I recall, even after he started showing up as red and blue on the covers, he was purple inside.

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Mumur
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posted May 12, 2002 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mumur   Click Here to Email Mumur        Reply w/Quote
Last year i bought my first 3 Marvel Masterworks.They were all sporting the 2nd trade design.They of course were...

Marvel Masterworks vol 1:Amazing Spider-Man vol 1{Which reprinted Amazing Fantasy #15 Spider-Man story only,and Amazing Spider-Man vol 1 #1-10}.

Marvel Masterworks 3:X-Men vol 1{Which Reprinted X-men #1-10}

Marvel Masterworks 18:The Mighty Thor vol 1{Which Reprinted The Thor Storys from Journey Into Mystery #83-100 and Tales of Asgard From Journey Into Mystery #97-98 and The 2 Page map of Asgard from Journey Into Mystery Annual 1}

I wanted to buy the Other 3 that were Reprinted under the new Trade Dress but they were ouf of Print and Marvel wasnt whipping out any more.They Were of Course..

Marvel Masterworks 2:Fantastic Four vol 1{Which Reprinted Fantastic Four vol 1 #1-10}

Marvel Masterworks 4:Avengers vol 1{Which Reprinted Avengers vol 1 #1-10}

Marvel Masterworks 17 aredevil vol 1{Which Reprinted Daredevil vol 1 #1-11}

Now i've mentioned all of this for a reason.{Other then the fact i wanted to and that i like stating all the facts from time to time}I saw and Purchased a Marvel Masterworks Trade Paperback!It Reprinted Roughly Half Of Amazing Spider-Man vol 1{It Reprinted Amazing Fantasy #15 Spider-Man Story only and Amazing Spider-Man vol 1 #1-5}Are there any other Marvel Masterworks that were released in Softcover and only reprinted Half of what its Hardcover cousin did?

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BillNolan
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posted May 12, 2002 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillNolan   Click Here to Email BillNolan        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mumur:
[BAre there any other Marvel Masterworks that were released in Softcover and only reprinted Half of what its Hardcover cousin did?[/B]

I used to own an Avengers softcover which reprinted 1-5, and I think there might have been an X-Men volume, but I'm not sure.

- Bill

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dylanfan
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posted May 12, 2002 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
This excercise was short lived, as the only softcover volumes to come out were X-Men, Spider-Man, and Avengers, which reprinted the first 5 issues of each comic.

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Visit the Marvel Masterworks fansite and Message Board:
Go to www.marvelmasterworks.freeservers.com

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kjames
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posted May 13, 2002 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kjames   Click Here to Email kjames        Reply w/Quote
Brucewayneman,
I've got some old pocketbook editions of Spiderman reprints. I believe that they published 3 total ones, each having 7 issues or so. I distinctly recall references to "Peter Palmer" in the first book. Kind of neat to see the reprint material stay true to the original - warts and all.

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Old Dude
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posted May 13, 2002 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Old Dude   Click Here to Email Old Dude        Reply w/Quote
Personally, I consider hyphens in names to be silly and superfluous, as in Spider-Man and Alter-Ego.

My favorite mistake was when Dr. Octopus called Spiderman "Superman" in Spiderman #3.

Also. In the Hulk, Stan Lee repeatedly used the name BOB Banner instead of Bruce. He finally had to say that his full name was Robert Bruce Banner, named after the famous Scotsman, to save face.

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dylanfan
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posted May 13, 2002 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Old Dude:

Also. In the Hulk, Stan Lee repeatedly used the name BOB Banner instead of Bruce. He finally had to say that his full name was Robert Bruce Banner, named after the famous Scotsman, to save face.


I wonder if Stan awarded himself a no-prize for his efforts.

BTW, Avengers Masterworks Vol. 1 in the new trade dress will ship May 22, according to tentative reports from Diamond.

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Visit the Marvel Masterworks fansite and Message Board:
Go to www.marvelmasterworks.freeservers.com

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Queen Of Swords
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posted May 19, 2002 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Of Swords        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mumur:
[/B]Now i've mentioned all of this for a reason.{Other then the fact i wanted to and that i like stating all the facts from time to time}I saw and Purchased a Marvel Masterworks Trade Paperback!It Reprinted Roughly Half Of Amazing Spider-Man vol 1{It Reprinted Amazing Fantasy #15 Spider-Man Story only and Amazing Spider-Man vol 1 #1-5}Are there any other Marvel Masterworks that were released in Softcover and only reprinted Half of what its Hardcover cousin did?[/B]

I remember during the early 1990s that Marvel Comics actually published trade paperback editions of certain Marvel Masterworks volumes, but they were reprinted half the content than the hardcover editions.

The ones I can remember were: Uncanny X-Men Masterworks vol. 1 (X-Men #1-5), Spider-Man Masterworks vol. 1 (I think this reprinted Amazing Spider-Man #1-5, and Amazing Fantasy #15, not sure about this one though), The All-New, All Different X-Men Masterworks vol. 1 (Giant-Size X-Men #1, and Uncanny X-Men #94-97), and Avengers Masterworks vol. 1 (The Avengers #1-5).

This is all I can remember that were published as TPBs (I doubt Marvel will do Masterworks TPBs ever again either). If anymore were published that I missed mentioning, please correct me. I personally thought this was a great idea from Marvel back then as these were more cheaper alternatives than buying the hardcovers (but at reprinting half the content was the only downfall). Mind you, I don't own any of them. I'm just doing an old memory trip through time. I believe all of these books are now out-of-print, except for the Avengers book, which is still listed as being available to order from Diamond Comic Distributors' Star Sytem backlist of books at the Marvel Comics section. Its available to order with this line number STAR06556

Was the Avengers TPB volume a poor seller, thus the stock supply still being available after all these years?

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Corrosive Kid
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posted May 19, 2002 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Corrosive Kid        Reply w/Quote
Were those Miss America stories reprinted somewhere else? They look awfully clean for pages supposedly scanned from Golden Age comics.

There's no link to them from Heroic Publishing's main page, either, which begs the question: how did anyone know that they were out there?

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted May 20, 2002 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
The new printing of Avengers Masterworks, V1 will ship this week. See http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/shipping_052202.txt

Well now, that's Spidey, X-Men, Avengers, and Subby all in the new dress. Jeez, you'd almost think Marvel was serious about the Masterworks. Keep this up, and folks will actually believe it. But the quality concerns raised over on dylanfan's message board have me concerned. See http://pub52.ezboard.com/fmarvelmasterworksfansitefrm1.showMessage?topicID=137.topic for details.

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Silver Age Adam
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posted May 20, 2002 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silver Age Adam   Click Here to Email Silver Age Adam        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BillNolan:
Have you checked out the Miss America stories online at this address:
http://www.heroicpub.com/missamerica/index.html

Fun stuff.

- Bill


Thanks Bill, those are really great!

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G. Cornelis McWilliams
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posted May 21, 2002 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for G. Cornelis McWilliams        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NecessaryImpurity:

Well now, that's Spidey, X-Men, Avengers, and Subby all in the new dress. Jeez, you'd almost think Marvel was serious about the Masterworks. Keep this up, and folks will actually believe it. But the quality concerns raised over on dylanfan's message board have me concerned. See http://pub52.ezboard.com/fmarvelmasterworksfansitefrm1.showMessage?topicID=137.topic for details.

I have read the different posts. And while understanding and some what agreeing to the princple of the topic and the gathered responces. I have already purchased the SPider-Man; Sub-Mariner; and X-Men Masterworks and plan on purchasing any future volume, includong this weeks Avengers.
The paper is slighty thinner and more glossy,and has a habit of showing waves (especially the Sub-Mariner.But, when ever I layed a page flat the page straightened out and showed no signs of creasing. I noticed the bold coloring in Sub-Mariner (and yes, it is simple and bright) but, it does not make the story or book less injoyable too me.I like the binding more then the first line of Masterworks back in the 1980's.
Finally there is the Dardevil thing.Well D C has made a few typoes them selfs. tHE SGT. Rock Archives lists Our Army At War 68 (which is not included. and in Will Eisner's Spirit Archives vol.6 The April 11, 1943 story is titled "The Dollars Of 1904" and yet the story was about dollar coins from 1804...
The bottom line is, I want the Silver Age Marvel Comics in hardcovers with full color.
While, I like the paper of the second run more, the new paper is still sturdy enough and the binding is secure to make me confident I can purchase,these volumes and expect many years of reading injoyment.
I am currently reading Batman Archvies vol.2 (Detective Comics 51 thru 70) The printing is very dark and the reproduction is smaller then most other archives works. I am fully injoying the stories and can read the words with no problem. It would have just been nicer if the color was not so dark.


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posted May 26, 2002 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne1776   Click Here to Email Wayne1776        Reply w/Quote
Thanks, BillNolan for that Miss America link. I just discovered I have a coverless copy of "Miss America" # 1, Summer 1944. It is in pretty darn good shape. It was one of dozens of coverless comics I bought at small convention in San Antonio, TX in the late 1970s for $20.00.

There is one other coverless comic from the same purchase I am curious about. It is almost for certain a "Marvel Mystery Comic". The stories are: Captain America:
"Bamboo Knife Butcher," Human Torch: "The Shadow of the Stalking Death," The Whizzer: "Speed for Sale," and Sub-Mariner: "The Mystery of the Great Lakes."
Anyone have any idea what issue number it might be? Thanks in advance- anyone who knows!
This forum (DC Archives) as usual, a pleasure to chatch up on in my readings.

I love my coverless comics!

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BillNolan
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posted May 26, 2002 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillNolan   Click Here to Email BillNolan        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wayne1776:
There is one other coverless comic from the same purchase I am curious about. It is almost for certain a "Marvel Mystery Comic". The stories are: Captain America:
"Bamboo Knife Butcher," Human Torch: "The Shadow of the Stalking Death," The Whizzer: "Speed for Sale," and Sub-Mariner: "The Mystery of the Great Lakes."
Anyone have any idea what issue number it might be?


Hi,

That would be All-Select Comics no. 5. Here's a link for more information:
http://barks.cybercomm.no/details.lasso?id=4133

The Grand Comic Database is a great source for identifying coverless Golden Age comics, especially mainstream ones from Timely or DC. You can go to the Advanced Search page and enter a title from one of the stories to get the titles and issue number. Their main page link:
http://www.comics.org/

- Bill

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